Podcast: Breaking Through "Weight Loss Isn't For Me" with Angela Philp

In this transformative episode, we unravel the complexities of weight loss and maintenance with a fresh perspective. Angela shares her personal journey of overcoming the mindset that weight loss isn't achievable, especially amidst life's social and emotional challenges.

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In this transformative episode, we unravel the complexities of weight loss and maintenance with a fresh perspective. Angela shares her personal journey of overcoming the mindset that weight loss isn't achievable, especially amidst life's social and emotional challenges.

Discover the subtle yet impactful strategies that redefine healthy living—from making small dietary adjustments to fostering resilience against social temptations. Learn how a simple shift in focus from food to connection during social gatherings can revolutionize your approach to eating and wellness.

We delve into the power of commitment, highlighting the significance of long-term goals over short-term fixes. This episode offers practical insights and motivational advice to help you break free from limiting beliefs and embrace a sustainable, healthier lifestyle. Whether you're navigating menopause, endurance training, or just everyday eating habits, this conversation is packed with valuable takeaways for everyone.

Tune in and be inspired to commit to a year of healthy living, redefine your relationship with food, and reclaim your vibrant self.

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so much for being here and chatting to us. Would you like to start by just introducing yourself and telling people a little bit about yourself? I could do that. I it's lovely to be here too though. It's really cool to sit here and have this conversation actually. Fabulous. It's full of fun.

interest and joy. So tell you a little bit about myself. I'm an ex endurance racer. I used to run 600 kilometer races between 90 and 600 kilometer races. Insane. Let's just have a pause. That's insane. It wasn't just running. It was like mountain biking and abseiling and kayaking and rafting and.

Horse riding and camel riding and rollerblading and basically anything that wasn't motorized. So I, I should say, you know, it's not as if I ran 600 kilometers, but I went from there to running to running like 95 kilometers in the mountains. I still love that. I'm just getting back to it. So for whoever listens to this, I'm now 53.

I had to go through that menopause phase where my hips hurt and I put on weight and I just wasn't doing all of this really cool exercising the way I knew myself to do that. , This is what we're going to talk about with the, with the weight loss part, which has been really cool. The re energizing part we'll get to, we'll get to, and what do I do?

Will I help women with their resilience? I work with women who are game changers and change makers in the world who are leaders. So basically I run a program called wild spirit, which is all about really connecting you with your true leader self and creating impossible results in the world, which is I like to do impossible things.

Amazing, amazing. So I just want to ask you a little bit about, you said, I have, I had menopause and I put on weight. Tell us a little bit about that. Like what happened? Were you doing things differently or did it just creep up on you? A bit of both. So what I noticed, well, about that time COVID hit as well.

So it sort of corresponded with me having. less energy, but more than anything, my hip hurt. So I used to, you could say it's from over training, but it really happened from one moment to the hip to the other. I had sore feet and all sorts of stuff that had never happened before. I hadn't had any warning of that, but also what happened was COVID hit at the same time.

We sort of like were retreated inside. So all of the extra training I was doing anyway, shifted to next to nothing. , but even before that though, what I noticed is I wasn't sleeping as well and my energy wasn't the same. I just think it's the, in French we'd say the concours de circonstance between menopause felt like something happened to my bones at the same time.

So it wasn't just energy and running and I'd over trained. I think but what I did notice though was that I was putting on weight in places I'd never put on weight before. I think that's relatively common, like around my, around my belly. Never had I had weight around if I was gonna put on weight.

It's always been my face, my boobs, my, and did your diet change at all? So I know for a lot of people during Covid, their pastime became baking. No. Eating extra foods. Do you think your diet changed? No, you just carried on as normal. No, no, we were really big We still really are big on vegetables. In fact, well, I still really am big on vegetables so my diet didn't change.

The kids were at home a lot But you know, it wasn't as if we could really, I lived in the country at the time So there was no home delivery of anything. So What I basically got delivered to the place each week were my vegetables and the chicken and things like that that I was But still, I think maybe my quantities might have gone up, I would say.

But what I was eating fundamentally didn't change. Okay, fine. Then we met, it must have been a few months ago now, it feels like perhaps even longer. At that time, tell me, like, what struggles you were having, say six months ago. Well, it seems that beforehand, first of all, it was just really easy to lose weight by doing sports.

That was, that was, if I ever put a little bit of weight on, what I would do is go for a longer run or do a bit more training. So first of all, I went from, I went from lots of training down to nothing. And then, and then my energy went down with that. And then when I met you, I was starting to get back into sport, but the weight wasn't changing.

I felt a bit like my super secret method wasn't working anymore. I just felt awful because I don't recognize myself in I don't have a judgment about how other people need to look particularly, but I recognize myself as somebody who was I was still full of energy and in other ways other people.

you know, you didn't know me, but other people would say that my energy level hadn't really changed, but I didn't feel the same. But just more than anything, it's just like I put on like literally 10 kilos, maybe even, maybe even 15, I think. Wow. That's amazing. In what period of time? Well, that was over the COVID period.

So basically two years. Okay. It was just a stark contrast from, from everything before. Then when I started, you know, doing my sport and thought, well, it will go down. It did not. So there was no, it felt like there was no hope. Yeah, totally. Totally. So then you did a reboot. Tell us a little bit about the reboot and how that helped.

Oh my God, I lost three kilos in two weeks. What was really cool about it is like I've, I've only ever done one diet in my life cause I never believed in it. I've always been able to also. probably because of the amount of exercise that I did get eat whatever I wanted. What I was learning was, so even though I don't pile the sugar in you know, I'd have dessert if I wanted it and things like that.

But what I found with the reboot. Just a side note, the reboot is not a diet per se. It's not about depriving yourself and not eating certain foods. Although of course the reality is you aren't eating sugar and white flour. What you're actually doing is. Looking at the joy of healthy eating and finding all of these amazing healthy things and really focusing on the healthy foods But not depriving yourself in terms of quantity.

Totally. That's what like changed my life Because if I was hungry, I'd just eat, you know, so I didn't even have to think about it There was no sort of like, oh you can only eat at these times and you can Like we said, it's not you can only eat these things, it's more avoid a couple of things. So you've got all of this variety, all of this variety, which I just found, I need variety.

I can't eat just one thing. This horrible diet that I tried was called the Dukan diet and all you could eat was like protein, meat and eggs and and I just felt sick. I lost a lot of weight, but I felt, I really did feel sick and I will never go back to that again. And I never did it again. I don't know if it's going to cost me this.

I'll never ever do it again. And also when I look back, I did not need to lose weight at the time either. It was like, God, what was I thinking? Anyway, so the reboot was, it was like, it was the absolute joy of eating. And it doesn't mean either that I just went and scoffed anything, but it just meant I never had the feeling of scarcity, never had the feeling I had to deprive myself.

even like the contrary was that there was this abundance of things I could actually eat, like all of the yummy fruit that I do like, you know, like fresh all, I really actually enjoy vegetables. So there was a, you know, it, it meant that I had to be more resourceful. Rigorous on eating more in fact rather than eating less because what I had found that I did when I shifted here to Spain was I I had the idea in my head that I ate a lot of vegetables and I ate a lot of fiber And that is what I did when I was with my kids But when I was on my own I would grab an apple.

So I was actually eating not enough Yeah, I'd grab an apple or i'd grab like a piece of cheese I wouldn't eat the whole block but and I wouldn't eat chocolate or anything like that Good I wasn't actually eating enough and getting enough fiber. That's what came from a conversation with you. Since then I went, Oh my gosh, I just, so I would, yeah, take the time to make the lentils and it doesn't take very much time and take the time to chop up several pieces of vegetables, sorry, like carrots and capsicum and mushrooms and, you know, whatever else would come to tomato, lettuce, like, and then you'd have this great big colorful plate.

It didn't take that much more time, but because I committed to it, I actually ate more, felt satiated, had more fiber, had more joy in the taste and lost three kilos. Fantastic. And I didn't have to do more sport. So, I mean, I do want to do more sport, but I didn't have to. It was nothing to do with the sport.

Okay. So you did the reboot and then I remember afterwards you were doing quite well and you lost a little bit more weight. How long did that last for? Actually it lasted really well until I went on holiday with my mum. But what happened was it stabilised. I didn't put on weight. So I went, for everyone knows, I went on a cruise with my mum and you, I mean, I can, you can imagine what cruises might be like, but what was very cool was they had this huge salad bar and also like protein and things like that.

But it had lentils and chickpeas and, I'm like, Whoa, so I, I kept going, but it's still stabilized. So what I did have, what I changed was I, I don't drink, I stopped drinking alcohol for a year, but when I stopped drinking alcohol, I didn't lose weight. So whatever they tell you about that, it didn't actually on its own make a difference.

But so I went and had some non alcoholic beers when I was with my mom , That meant that I stayed the same, but I didn't lose any. Okay, and so then you got back off holiday. Yeah. And what were things like then? Staying the same? Yeah, they're still staying the same. So you haven't now got back to, and how, so now just so that, so the people who are listening to the podcast, now what we're going to do is what I call a plateau check.

So as you're losing weight, Often people don't lose weight in a straight line. Ideally, everyone would just lose weight in a straight line and it would be really easy. But reality isn't quite like that. So when you hit a plateau, really what you, the first thing you want to assess is am I doing everything the same that I was doing before?

So my aim when I work with people is to get people to this stage where essentially they are doing something and they know they're going to get that result. So when you, before you went on holiday, you were losing weight consistently and then you just rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat until you get stuck.

So the first question is, do you feel you're doing the same things now as you were before you went on holiday? With the reboot? Yeah. In terms of eating? No. Do you know what? I thought there's been some like for example, I'll have a cracker where I was like avoiding the white flour completely. So there's a few things that have snuck in.

So they're not the staple of my diet, but they've, but they've snuck in, you know. So Angela, it's really easy. We don't need to go through all the other stuff. So I'll just explain what I would do if you had said, yeah, it's all perfectly the same. If it's all perfectly the same, then we take a step back and we go through all four of the pillars.

Which are obviously nutrition, and sleep, and exercise, and emotional wellness, which includes stress, and have a look at those, and think which one is most out of kilter. Yeah. And within each of those, there are different things that you can do. So it's not about saying, well, for example, you have to do this, or you have to do that.

It's really having a look at what your hmm. For example, If we look at nutrition, we could think about looking at your fasting window, we could look at your portion sizes, we could make sure your proportions are all the same. So there's no right or wrong answer. We could probably look there. We could look there.

Because Because I'm just thinking, because it's, it, it plateaued before I went on holidays with my mum, in fact. Then I went, I'm on holidays with my mum, I haven't seen her for five years. Like, don't let it all go out the window, but So, okay, so what I would say in that situation is, the reboot is a really useful tool.

Then, go back, do a reboot, you don't necessarily have to make it two weeks. It could be a shorter reboot, you could do it for a week. Now, you, when you first did your reboot, you You were lucky and you lost weight. Not everybody loses weight when they're doing a reboot. The reboot is almost to retrain your mind and body and it depends.

Some people do lose weight, but not everybody loses weight. So do it for a week or two weeks. Get yourself back into that and see how you're going. If you're losing weight, then you kind of just need to rinse and repeat. There is a reality check in that people always say to me, what's the difference between reboot and.

like, you know, the next stage. And the answer is, well, really, it is reality in terms of you know, I've got kids who eat pasta or I'm going on holiday or I quite like my crackers. So where you want to get to is I'm doing as much reboot as I can and I know what my level is. I know that I can eat a cracker it's not going to have an impact or I know that actually if I eat a whole packet of crackers that is going to have an impact so that you know where that line is.

Yeah, it's really interesting because sometimes I feel like it's a cracker that's going to have an impact because I don't eat the whole packet. And it feels like getting out of the swing of the, and I don't want to say discipline because it doesn't feel like discipline or sacrifice, it feels like regularity, I think.

I really enjoyed, it's like when I, when I do do long distance, I'm planning to cross the Pyrenees next year and I love doing something where I plan back and then I have a regularity of, it's not always the same training, but there's a, like there's a consistent, there's a commitment, I think, that's it.

Something in there feels like, I don't know if it's imaginary or not, but just having the cracker sort of. I don't know, it takes me off the path. Well, one thing that I hear a lot of my clients talk about is that sugar, or in this case flour, is like a gateway drug, and you have a little bit of it, and some, a lot of my clients, and it depends where you get to, but a lot of people say, actually, do you know what?

I find it so much easier to remain in reboot and not, not eat flour and sugar because, Bye guys. I can have one donut, but then suddenly when I have one donut, I've had five donuts. That's obviously something that I work with people. So they get to that stage where they can just have one and leave it at that.

So I will only have, well, it wouldn't be a donut, for example, but what would happen is if I have it today, well, I could do it tomorrow as well. So even though I might not have a huge quantity of it, what I'll do is the next day I say, Oh, It's fine. Yeah. I think that's, that's what happens for me. It's like with kids.

You say, with kids, you know, you would like, they would want to stay up late one night and it's like one night is okay, but two days is a habit. Exactly. Exactly. I think that's like, you've really put your finger on the button there. So no, I won't eat the whole packet of crackers, but by the end of the week I might have.

Yeah. Right. Then that's throwing the whole thing out of context. Actually, that's now actually. Like, I think the line between weight loss and not weight loss is actually much smaller than people real, particularly if you are maintaining, because you're not putting on weight. No. If you were eating the whole crackers, the whole packet every time, you would be putting on weight, but it's just a small, thin, thin line that you need to just lower it a little bit.

, that's really interesting.

The same is true if you've got a positive habit like running or doing your exercise or your workout or going for a walk. The same is true when you don't do it in terms of it's okay not to go once, but you have to be really careful the second time and make sure that you don't drop that habit because It's, it's the second time when your brain just goes, Oh, I don't do this anymore.

If you want to have a cracker and you need to just be really aware, okay, I can have a cracker, but it's just one cracker and do it, you know, you can buy those little packets which are in plastic, two crackers instead of a whole packet that you somehow think, okay, if I'm going to allow myself to have a cracker, how can I do that?

There's different ways that you can set up those. limits, intern, you want internal limits, well it could be an external limit in that it could be the packet, but it could be you say, Okay, on Friday I'm allowed to eat what I want to on Friday, but then on Saturday I'm going to get back onto Reboot style, or Healthy Me style.

Yeah, I was just thinking as well, like, when I, I think where I notice it falls down for me is when somebody else is around yeah so not much When I was at home, I used to fast actually, speaking of fast, I would do a 60 hour fast once a month. It was really hard in the beginning. Then I got used, like it was just, I just decided like, when I said I was going to stop alcohol, it was just that moment where I went, there's never a right time

I'm doing it now. Same with the reboot. There's never a right time. I'm doing it now. That's it. It's like there will not be an ideal time. So when I was at home in my general everyday routine, Even I would cook my kids dinners, vegetables, oh really good dinners, right? Yummy things that were even good for you, and I'd still do my 60 hour fast.

That's amazing. That was it. What happens now is it's sort of like there's a leak if, when I say a leak in the boat sort of thing, like my elder, now my children are older, they live by themselves and they come and stay with me. And what do they do? They bring a packet of crackers. Yeah, and so I won't eat the whole lot of the crackers But now they're there and I would not have bought them like when I'm on my own and I'm doing my reboot The whole place is you were talking about systems.

The whole place is set up for that. What I have to eat is reboot stuff And that's it. So do you eat them when your kids are there and they open the crackers? Do you find it difficult to eat them at that moment or difficult not to eat them at that moment? Yeah, it sort of depends.

Like if they pop them out, I've got to have either already eaten or decided what I'm going to eat. So I think it's the system thing. If I've already planned. So I've just come back from France and landed at home. So the fridge isn't set up. The, for example, and it was the same when I was on the boat, even when I'll, even when we had with my mum on the cruise, even though there was this kitchen, sort of that, so dining room with all of this really great food.

It wasn't, that wasn't the only place we had dinner on the boat. So there was like, how am I going to find this in between? How am I going to set this same thing up in with what I've got and also enjoy myself with my mom and not make it too strict, for example. And then when my kids are there, it's more a sense of I need to make sure that my fridge is almost set up before I get down there so that when they pull out the crackers I'll be pulling out something else.

They don't care. Yeah, and one thing I'd say as well is that social eating I think is one of the hardest, and it's a skill, it's one of the hardest skills to learn. you've done it with alcohol. Yeah. That you, like when you did it with alcohol you made a commitment to yourself and you said I'm not going to do this for a whole year.

You went through that system of, Yep, I'm going to watch other people drink alcohol, and it's the same kind of thing with different foods. The way I always teach people to do this is, well, number one, you can make a commitment and decide that you're going to do it for a period of time, but what happens to most people is they say, well, first of all, I'm going to try and do it, and then it doesn't quite work how they intend to do it, and they end up eating something.

Yeah. So first of all, take away the judgment and just be interested in what's going on. Then people will say, OK, I'm going to go through this experience and I'm going to not indulge in whatever it is that other people are eating. At that moment I'll say to people, so what you really need to do is focus on the other good things that are going on at that period of time.

So, for example, chatting with your kids and being around your kids and hopefully you've got something else that you can eat. Now after that, most people aren't going to It's not like a switch. Do you know what I mean? It's not like, okay, they did it once and so now you're going to do it forever. Most people are going to have more experiences where they go back and they eat that thing again in a similar way.

social setting. But where you just want to get to is the more often you can strengthen that muscle of, yeah, I'm absolutely fine with people eating around me, the easier it becomes for you. I love what you've just said about really focusing on like the connection, the really positive like what I'm actually there for is connection, not food.

Like there's, it's not a problem having food there, but Remembering that these moments, that food is a way to connection, but it doesn't have to be. Connection needs to be there first, like for example, if it's a family or social setting. So that's really fantastic. Um, as a, you can see me looking out the window with my little brain thinking away.

It's like, and this is the way I talk to my clients about their commitments, right? So it's so interesting that a shift in, in who we are you know, I mean, I lead people to create the most amazing things and to, like, jump two levels in their career and, and, and through commitment and to be able to find the underlying value.

So it's so helpful with food to have you here to do this with me, like just recognizing that the support is what helps. Yeah. Also, and you know, the support when somebody holds the mirror up and tells you something that you in fact, Already know for everybody else, but I've forgotten for yourself. I think the way I see it is when you're making these changes to begin with, you really need to use self awareness and you really need to understand what's going on.

And as you have demonstrated, I've got the self awareness to be able to say, I need my fridge to be like this and I need to do things like this. And for everybody, it's slightly different. And the longer you keep going on this, and you keep thinking about your health and your wellness and how your body feels when you eat certain foods and really think about certain foods and actually, sugar, looking at you, it's doing damage to your body.

Yes, we do need sugar, but excess sugar is doing damage to your body. Until you get to this stage where you're just like, actually, I don't really want to eat this food, it's actually really easy for me to be in any social setting. I eat this food on endurance because there's nothing else to eat. I would much rather eat my own healthy, delicious food.

And you get that, you do get that. Actually, it's so interesting that you say that with respect to endurance because I decided that and you said something else before which was really key. If we come to anything with a mindset of I'll try, then it's not a commitment. So it's, wouldn't say it's destined to fail, but it's Not got a lot of chance of succeeding.

So that was the one thing I thought, yeah, if we come at it with a try mindset, you either do it or you don't do it. It's like Yoda. There is no try. And then so that is what is helpful to me when I commit. And so I committed to not drinking alcohol. So I've had people try and get me to drink it and all the rest of it.

And I went, no. But now, because I'm literally, it's the 13th of August this year, that it will be a year. And they're going, but you're so close. And I'm like, why wouldn't I cross the finish line? I'm this far along. Why would you try and tempt me? Like, why wouldn't you support me to keep going? And what are you going to do on the 13th of August?

I'm actually doing a 5km swim, my dear, on the 15th, so I will not be drinking alcohol after a year. Just before, I'm going to wait until after the swim and I'm going to have a glass of champagne and see if I like it. Not entirely sure I will. But I'm going to have a try. See, that was a little with menopause as well.

I noticed that alcohol didn't sort of agree with me as much, which I found most annoying because I really love champagne. I know that sounds very snobby, but I actually really like this champagne. I also like beer. But I have come to adore non alcoholic beer, and I think I might even like it more because I just don't like the sleepiness that goes with alcohol or anything afterwards.

Like, I just, even one glass and I feel sleepy. But I'm still going to try it, to toast the fact that I did do that year.

Coming back to you saying you might not like alcohol, and for me definitely I've noticed that getting older has really affected my metabolism of alcohol, and I don't, like I enjoy drinking it, but I really don't enjoy the fact that I just don't sleep at all.

It's not that I don't even sleep at all, but I know it affects my sleep, and I love having energy in the day, and so it's kind of easy for me to make that decision to not drink alcohol, and that's definitely a change. But I think the same kind of change can happen in terms of nutrition and we've already nailed exercise But you know getting back to exercise.

Thanks to you, which I'm loving and like what you said, that's it too. Like I'm Generally, I don't like sacrifice and what does work is something where I really draw a line in the sand and I give myself a lot, like if I say I won't eat sugar for a month, it's destined to fail because it's weirdly too short.

But if I say I won't eat sugar for a year and I, when I say sugar, I mean processed sugar. I don't mean fresh fruit because that's because what I call white refined carbohydrates. Yeah. I mean like any form of white refined carbohydrates, even ice cream, which I admit I adore. But if I have a little bit. I am the person who will have, I won't have five ice creams, but I'll have one the next day and then one the next day, particularly in summer, and then that works against me.

So I need, I am a bit of a, there are lots of healthy alternatives to ice cream that you can make at home. I will, please say, please say, because that will help me commit to a year without sugar. Having had four kids in a hot country. Okay. So some of the things I do, I freeze bits of fruit and then you can whiz them up and smoothie using whatever milk you want.

Or you can do it with yogurt as well actually, so you've then got frozen yogurt and the consistency is like soft ice cream. So those are my two top tips. Also watermelon is another thing. Freeze the watermelon and whiz it up and then you get like a slushy watermelon which is very refreshing. I love it.

So two really easy things to do. You do have to prepare it in that you need to have frozen your fruit. Bye. It's kind of easy. The other thing you can do with banana as well, if you get frozen banana and you whizz it up, actually you break down the starch a little bit. Have you ever done that with potato and it becomes really it becomes more like ice cream.

Yeah. It, sometimes I think it has a slightly plasticky taste, but that's because the Banana or potato? Either, you can do it with either, but I do with banana, but both of them will break down in the same way. They basically, the starch breaks down and it becomes a sort of, gloopy thing. Do you know, so right here and now, you've heard it and anybody else who listens to this has heard it, I'm stopping sugar, like processed sugar for 12 months.

We are today, seems to happen to me around this time in July or August that I say things like this. What is it, the 15th, 16th, 17th? Perfect. Whatever it is, so I will not be having sugar. Commitment made. Commitment made. Particularly because I've just been given an alternative that really that really inspires me because I, I, I love fresh fruit I sometimes will have like a, a date, you know, like something like that if I feel like something sweet.

So it's not about saying you can never have anything sweet, but just being able to have the ice creamy thing, I think is the only thing I've missed. Yeah, so like with the banana, you can take the banana, and if you wanted to make chocolate ice cream, take the banana, add chocolate, like cocoa powder, not actual chocolate, but it's still slightly sweet.

Or even dark chocolate. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you would, if you're gonna be a purist about giving up sugar, dark chocolate does have some sugar. 99%. 99. No, it's got like nothing in it because this is the first time in my life doing your reboot, where I literally only allowed myself 99% chocolate. I've always hated the stuff, and it was the first time I ever thought it tasted sweet.

Yeah. And I'm like, oh my, if you mix it with, if you mix it with fruit as well, you are picking up the sugar from that. But also your taste buds have changed because. You're not comparing it to actual real chocolate. You're now comparing it to lack of sugar for however many weeks. Yeah, okay, so how do you think I should move forward because like now I've made this commitment for with sugar And I know that alcohol is sugar so I'm likely I'm after my glass of champagne and maybe a beer just to taste it To let go of alcohol again for the next year How do you think Suggest I move forward, like, now, with the, like, With the sugar?

Doing, doing, doing the reboot again? Do you, yeah, well, so do a two week reboot, and really, it is just reboot for a year. Like, basically that's what a reboot is. Okay. Like, if I say to you, if I sum up a reboot, it is, eat lots of healthy things, so eat fruits and vegetables, eat lentils and legumes, you need some protein, which could be meat if you eat meat, but it could be fish, it could be plant based proteins, you want your fat in there, nuts and seeds, With less, well for the reboot, none, of white refined carbohydrates.

Yeah, and that's basically it. So, a question for you because when my friends arrived the other day, they had some really great, like I don't eat a lot of bread, but they brought dark organic bread. So it was like it wasn't white and refined. Does that, like, I know you've said white refined, but. If we're talking a year, I'm not talking for the next two years.

Yeah, okay, so that's, like, you need to go through and decide where you draw that line. Right. Because that line can be a little bit wobbly from times, and yeah, you just need to, and certain things are going to come up, and you're going to be like, does this count, or does this not count? Yeah. And it's really to do with the processing more than anything, so, I don't know, I guess you just have to decide what your, where you're going to draw that line in the sand.

Fair enough. Okay, that, that, that works. Because I, I've like become addicted to my really lovely Greek yogurt breakfast with walnuts and chia seeds and and blueberries and raspberries. Like it's just all I want for breakfast now. It's really, it's really become my go to and like when I don't have that, I'm like, Oh, what am I going to have for breakfast?

And nothing else. I don't feel like it. And I know you've said that savory brekkies are great. They're great. No, fruit is great as well. And I don't, I don't enjoy them. So my only challenge is going to be when I'm hiking the Pyrenees next year from the 9, it's 912 kilometers with 55, 000 meters. I really want to have conversations about resilience.

So I'm going to talk to you about the nutrition as I go across, because it's going to take me about hopefully less than six weeks, is what I'm intending. But between a month and six weeks and the difficulty I used to have like was in endurance racing was getting enough carbohydrates and fat because you do need it and I don't like family but I'm probably maybe I'm a bit lucky that I don't like the taste too much sweet it used to make me feel sick so how do I get the the nutrition to be able to keep going and I mean, I won't be worried about weight loss then, every person who does this thing loses 10 kilos, which is not my intention.

So I'd actually like to keep my energy going. So I'll have a talk to you then. We will definitely talk about that. Angela, what is your aha moment from this conversation? That's your takeaway message, your takeaway thing that you want to take away from this chat. It was what I said before about well, first of all, The new ice cream.

We're going for connection, that when I'm in a social setting to room, like these are really key things that again, I say with my clients, but I forgot with myself on something that seems so basic.

that what I'm going for in a social setting is connection. Food is a way to that on a socially accepted level, but what I'm really going for is connection. So I get to put the food in the second place, not the first place. And remember the connection is the essence. And that will like, help me no end.

Perfect. Perfect. And any words of wisdom for anybody who is back in your situation, So perhaps gone through menopause and thinking, Oh my goodness, like what has happened to me? How do they get themselves out of that? Other than obviously coming to chat to me. And I definitely, I really do think they should come and chat to you.

Like with all my heart, cause it has been so beneficial. And I almost have a tear in my eye right now because I really, you know, my sport has been important to me. My fitness and my health has been really important to me all my life. I. found myself also with menopause with you know what goes with menopause is really negative thoughts like not just body image negative thoughts but really like weird stuff going through your brain with the hormonal imbalances and i almost had myself and i'm a coach and i almost had almost had myself believing that this was it And this is what I, I just had to deal with and make the most of for the rest of my life.

And so if anybody is having those thoughts, I said, no, I said, excuse me, you can come and be healthy and get fit. You did. Well, I knew I could get fit again, but I thought that getting fit would still mean keeping all this weight, like too bad, you know, like, or, or that. I also thought that the only way for me to get my body back was to only ever be able to run 95 kilometers again.

And as I get older, I mean, I still want to cross the Pyrenees and I might want to do that, but I don't want my weight to be dependent on me running 95 kilometers until I'm 90, you know? I want to do it for the fun of it, not, or for the challenge, but not, you know, like to stay in, you know? with a healthy body.

And I was just like, that's it. That's what you're, you're either going to have to do that or give up. And so what I would have to say to people is no, there is a way forward and it is not a foregone conclusion that you're going to keep your menopause weight. And it's not a foregone conclusion that if you don't want to keep it, you're going to have to starve yourself completely the contrary.

And I really want to thank you for giving me access to that. My absolute pleasure. Do you want to just wrap up by telling people where they can find you on social media and things like that? Yes, you, thank you. And you might see Orlena and I doing things together because we have a similar mindset and I love training with you swimming and, you know, thanks to you it's been like, I've been fine doing things in the, you know, on the, on land, right.

Or even jumping out of bungee jumping, but being in the middle of the sea and not having anything underneath me and going, Oh my God, there are things here I can't see. And will I make it? So this great coaching that you've done, first of all, before I talk about me has been really helpful in like gaining, regaining my confidence in.

being with the unknown. And so where you can find me is at Queen of Possible on Instagram, Queen of Possible on Facebook and Angela Philp on LinkedIn. And yeah, so. And I'll leave all of those links in the show notes as well. Great. That would be wonderful. Perfect. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you.